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romney as he tries to steady his campaign. joining us for a debate of their own, democratic governor of massachusetts, devalue patrick and kelly welcome to both of you. >> thanks, david. >> a lot to get to. let's start with the issue of taxes. mitt romney's tax returns showing in 2011 he paid 14%. he didn't have a job. this was interest income. governor, should this end the debate or should there be more? >> i understand people's interest and curiosity about the tax returns. his dad said tax returns for presidential candidate should be produced way back many years and i think it produced 20 years worth of tax returns when he was considered vice president. the more important issue is what is it he plans to do with my taxes and yours and everybody els. he has a tax plan where he's talking $5 trillion in tax cut, adding to the deficit, no way to pay for it and no idea about what the impact is. >> the question of more returns and what they are holding, you don't think it's appropriate -- >> i think it's a fair question. the bigger question is what is it he plans to do with everybody else
on our own two feet is exactly what governor romney is conveying. >> do you think president obama has not said to a group of donors, look, there are certain segments in the electorate that are not going to vote for me? why not see it as political analysis? >> i don't think that's what the president said or ever said. what he's done is govern for all of the people. the president has, you know, he's advanced policy that is are not popular with his base. he did them because he thought they were important for the future of this country. it's the leadership we need. >> let's talk about the issues, the 47% get to. the question of government dependence as you referenced, here are snapshots nationally that raised eyebrows and governor romney talked about. you talk about food stamps. 47 million americans on food stamps up from four years ago. here is a broader picture from the wall street journal over time, if you go back to the early '80s and look at the trajectory, 49% receiving some kind of government benefit. is government dependent at a place where it's out of control? >> well, david, i t
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